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   Linage in most Korean systems is a convoluted affair mostly full of half truths and mis quotes so I will simply say -  My training began with High school wrestling . I met Master Valdez when 16-17 and achieved a senior instructor ranking in Kwon Bop trained with various teachers and styles but maintained my Kwon Bop rank.   My currant rank was given to me by GM,s Dunn and Ray of the International Kong Soo Do Association 

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